Who is the #2 prospect behind Matt Cain?
    Merkin Valdez
    Marcus Sanders
    Eddy Martinez-Esteve
    Nate Scheirholtz
    Travis Ishikawa
    Kevin Frandsen
    other
      
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AVG......Brian Horowitz (.349)
2B.......Eddy Martinez-Esteve (44)
3B.......Clay Timpner (12)
HR.......Todd Linden (30)
RBI......Mike Cervenak (103) SB.......Marcus Sanders (57)
OBP......Todd Linden (.437)
SLG......Todd linden (.682)
ERA......Dave McKae (2.42)
W........Broshuis/Floyd/Salankey (12)
K........Matt Cain (176)
SV.......Bateman/Wilson (21)

Monday, February 13, 2006

Jon Sickels Top 20

This list from is promising. If Sickels' projections are accurate, the Giants should have some solid depth coming from within in the coming years.

"SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS TOP 20 PROSPECTS

  1. Matt Cain, RHP, Grade A-
  2. Marcus Sanders, 2B, Grade B+
  3. Merkin Valdez, RHP, B+
  4. Eddy Martinez-Esteve, "OF," B+
  5. Travis Ishikawa, 1B, B
  6. Nate Schierholtz, OF, B
  7. Jonathan Sanchez, LHP, B
  8. Kevin Frandsen, 3B, B
  9. Dan Griffin, RHP, B-
  10. Pablo Sandoval, 3B, B-
  11. Shairon Martis, RHP, B-
  12. Freddy Lewis, OF, C+
  13. Waldis Joaquin, RHP, C+
  14. Ben Copeland, OF, C+
  15. Jeremy Accardo, RHP, C+
  16. Jon Coutlangus, LHP, C+
  17. Dan Ortmeier, OF, C+
  18. Brian Horwitz, OF, C+
  19. Brian Wilson, RHP, C+
  20. Ben Nieto, LHP, C+

I have to say that this list surprises me. . .it's a lot better than I thought. Either the Giants have a better farm system than they are given credit for, or I gave out too many Grade C+ ratings and some of those guys should be just plain C..."

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Comments on "Jon Sickels Top 20"

 

Blogger DrBGiantsfan said ... (5:17 PM) : 

I'd grade it a little different, but my GPA would be about the same.

A- for Cain is about right.

I'd give straight B's to Frandsen, Ortmeier, Whitaker, Lewis, Schierholtz, Sanders, Martis, Sandoval, Joaquin, Ishikawa, Valdez, Martinez-Esteve, Wilson, and Sanchez.

C+ to Acosta, Griffin, and Sadler.

C's all the way down to about #40 or so.

 

Blogger DrBGiantsfan said ... (5:19 PM) : 

IMO, leaving Whitaker out of the top 20 is ridiculous. Sickels relies almost entirely on stats and almost none on scouting reports. He does almost no personal scouting either. He has a great site and I like reading his analyses, but the lack of scouting info is a big weakness there.

 

Blogger BruteSentiment said ... (7:24 PM) : 

If he did scouting on Whitaker, it might hurt Whitaker even more.

The things I heard out of guys in Augusta is that he's a mess with his mechanics. He has problems repeating his throwing motion, and that probably helped lead to his back problems. A back injury usually doesn't come from being overworked, and usually isn't fixed by being moved to the bullpen.

Whitaker is light years behind where a kid should be going into his third year in the pros.

 

Blogger DrBGiantsfan said ... (8:33 PM) : 

Correction: I should have rated Sadler a C and Copeland a C+ . Maybe that means I should have switched them in my top 50 list too. I don't remember the exact order.

 

Blogger DrBGiantsfan said ... (8:38 PM) : 

I don't doubt that all those things are true of Whitaker. it was pretty obvious from his performance last year. Those are all things that can be fixed though. He still has the tools. Once he gets it worked out, things can come together pretty fast for a kid like that. You really need all the information, stats, skills, and tools. Just look at how fast Bobby Jenks shot up once he got it figured out.

 

Blogger Birdman said ... (3:37 AM) : 

That is my concern with Whitaker as well. His tools aren't all that wowing to overlook his lack of production so far. He does have enough talent and is young enough to be a factor if he figures it out. I have no problem with Sickels leaving Whitaker out of the top 20.

 

Blogger DrBGiantsfan said ... (7:12 AM) : 

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. You and John are certainly out of the mainstream on that one, but you may well be right. I'm not saying Whitaker is a sure thing. If he was, I'd be saying he should get an A- or B+. As it is, I'm pretty comfortable with a B and I think he should be somewhere in the top 15. I'm personally bullish on the kid.

 

Blogger BruteSentiment said ... (10:23 AM) : 

This isn't a comment about Sickels, persay, but thought it'd be worth noting...I just picked all this up from BA's transaction page:

Signed RHP Pedro Liriano, OF Jason Knoedler and LHP Mivhael Tejera. Released OFs Charlie Babineaux and Dan Trumble, 3B Michael Cervenak, LHPs Ryan Callahan, Juan Farrach and Travis NeSmith, RHPs Benny Cepeda, Daniel Portorreal, Rickey Putman, Rafael Rigueiro, Brian Stirm and J.B. Thurmond, 1Bs Jason Columbus and Brad Vericker, Cs D.J. Dixon and Max Felix and 2B Lisandro Disla. Signed RHPs Matt Kinney, Adam Ortiz-Jusino and Jamey Wright and SS Tim Bowers. Released RHP Tom Gornati.

Some of those releases shocked me:

• With almost no high-option third baseman, Cervenak seemed like a solid AAAA player to keep around just in case injuries occurred to Feliz at third.

• I remember someone talking about Vericker not long ago, was that you DrB?

• D.J. Dixon...he was only signed in 2003, and had put together decent enough numbers in a shallow position.

• Ben Thurmond...He was a little old for his level and got blasted at San Jose, but again, seemed like enough to try and hold on to.

Interesting to see the Giants sign Justin's twin. He won't get a lot of playing time.

Adam Ortiz-Jusino was the Giants third-to-last draft pick in 2005. 21 years old, low 90's fastball with good offerings at the changeup and slider for his level.

 

Blogger DrBGiantsfan said ... (12:27 PM) : 

I'm a little surprised about Cervenak.

I really liked Vericker early on. He sort of got disrespected last year when he got sent back down to Augusta. AA seemed to be a little over his head and we had Travis Ishikawa at SJ. This year, Ishikawa should move up to AA and I would rather see Will Thompson in SJ.

The rest are pretty much dead wood. We have a whole raft of promising prospects coming up from short season ball who need a place to play, especially pitchers.

BTW, how much longer are we going to hang onto Julian Benevides?

 

Blogger Birdman said ... (12:59 PM) : 

Thanks Brute. Wow releasing Cervenak is surprising. You gotta wonder what goes on with a guy like this who has produced well in the minors, even if he was a little old for a prospect. Who replaces him at 3B in Fresno?

 

Blogger DrBGiantsfan said ... (5:24 PM) : 

LOL! The Sporting News Baseball Special Edition lists Cervenak as the prospect to watch! I guess that just goes to show how far The Sporting News has fallen. No knowledgeable baseball writer or fan would consider Cervenak a prospect. A good minor league player? Yes. A prospect? No.

 

Blogger multiphasic said ... (12:04 AM) : 

I've been thinking about the Cervenak release, and I'm leaning towards believing it was a sympathy move, to allow the Mayor to latch on to a team which will give him more of a guaranteed shot at the majors, a sort of perverse reward for his patience. If, like Al Levine last year, he can't score that break, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we re-acquire him.

 

Blogger BruteSentiment said ... (12:53 AM) : 

It looks like Cervenak has hooked up with a team in Korea, according to the latest article on sfgiants.com.

Good luck to him.

 

Blogger Michael said ... (12:46 PM) : 

Matt Cain has turned out to be a gem for the Giants. Looks like this guy's predictions turned out to be true!

 

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